the catastophy has been going on now for 7000 years at least...

yes the whole concept "sivilisation" was based on sand or in fact on stealing and lying. Thats what Odin is most famous for. Stealing and lying or this is what he calls for poetry and that was his trade. He has been our pr man all along the way of the fall. Fall from grace and harmony. Man has been falling now for 12000 years spiritually and genetically. Only in matters of oppression has the "sivilised" man added something. And stubidity. But in general we are on the wrong track with our freedom chat. This body of humans is now a kind of uncontrolable mass of a headless body. Never been sicker and more greedy. Never been more expanding and never been more obvious than now how damaging the program we are running is for all nature. All life forms. Especially for animals and humans. Also the vegitation. Also air and water and temprature ballance. Also for oxigen. And water distribution. In all matters regarding foundation of living habitat. Its all interrelated. If anything intergrational is to happen 2011 or 12 then its this, that we cant go on in the expansion and perhaps we have a clear data on the table... and a gathering of eco friends and the indigenous people what still remains. So we might just start to prepare for this gathering in Iceland 2012. Or whenever. Soon at least. And I am already preparing a gathering up there in my mind and system . That gathering has been in a preperation for over 20 years in my mind. 7000 years of expanding problematics we have had and if we are to experience anything more attractive around these times its all built on a 180 degree change of attitude and activity. Seemingly we need more heavy catastophs to wake up. I cant see a global change going on yet... its more like ecoing in the background. Not exepted really as problem jet this more and more madness. That is to say capitalism and money as the only value exepted.
So the change is perhaps going to be visable and obvious for us around 2012 or 13 that we get this change happening, spiritually in such a quantity that even it has become the center of the politics in one or more important Europian country.... then okey ... then we can say yes its visable, its not just a hunch or a feeling or even less prominent a message of some "angel" or a spirit from beond the vail. (a hunch, a wish, a vision)

Lets pray and hope also but not only.